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Poster: BataviaSparky Date: May 15, 2009 7:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Walkin' out

Just read Skiebus' post about walking out at Shoreline and it got me thinking, when have I walked out of a show? Twice I can recall, once at Soldier '91 (the Dark Star show). Did not do it for me at the time. I know its a semi-revered show, but to me it sounds boring. Also walked out early in the Dead's '04 Joliet raceway debacle. That show should have just plain been canceled after the storms from the night before. Joan was horrible. People were walking out in droves. Actually it might be interesting to hear it once more (but probably not). When have you walked out? (Funny how reminiscing about bad experiences can be fun!)

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: May 15, 2009 8:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

I never walked out on a show. That doesn't mean I didn't see shows where I was (*ahem*) less than impressed, but I just always figured I had paid for a ticket, so I might as well stick it out and see what happens.

Plus, I'll always remember 9/3/88. Hardy the worst night the GD ever had, but a somewhat disjointed show- the band just couldn't seem to find the groove all evening; "Victim" and "Foolish" cluttered the second set (they were still fairly new and hadn't developed into much yet), and the "Dew" closer was both too little and too late.

As soon as the first notes of the OMSN encore started, I noticed more than the usual number of early exits heading for the lot. Later, many of these ship-jumpers could be seen milling about, cursing and shaking their heads in disbelief. Had these folks stayed, they would have been treated, as the rest of us were, to the last "Ripple" of the Dead's career. Oops.

I stopped going to shows in '91. That's when it just stopped being worth the effort for me.

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Poster: Morning Dewd Date: May 15, 2009 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

I missed that night because I had to attend my sister's wedding in Conn. that afternoon.A friend called after the show, and I drove down to catch the rest of the run.I was bummed that I missed Ripple.I was less upset after hearing the tape.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: May 15, 2009 8:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

Yeah, like some of their other later day breakouts("Box of Rain" in '86), it was more one of those "great just to be there" moments than a piece of musical brilliance that would keep you going back to the tape again and again.

(in fact, that "Box of Rain" show in Hampton in '86 was one weird experience- a thin slice of true euphoria wedged into one of the weakest all around shows I ever saw)

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 15, 2009 2:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

Does the encore count?

I walked out on some piece of crap 90's show when they started doing "Liberty" for the encore and I realized I'd rather get a head start on beating the crowd than listen to even one note of that musical turd dessert offering.

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Poster: Morning Dewd Date: May 15, 2009 5:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

If encores count, I've left a few times during "It's All Over Now-Go Find your Shoes".

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Poster: pigpen_81 Date: May 15, 2009 7:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

I'll chime in here,..
If encores count, I can't count how many times I've left at the beginning notes of Day Job and It's all over now baby blue... unless of course I was to wasted to know what they were playing, ; ) which did happen a few times.

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Poster: Jim F Date: May 16, 2009 1:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

I once got free tickets to a Marshall Tucker Band show at some lame casino in 2003. Didn't have anything else better to do, so I went with 2 friends. They played in "The Bottleneck Blues Bar," which had carpeted floors and chandeliers and no smoking and was full of yuppies who sat in their seats stonefaced the entire show. Not my idea of a blues bar...anyway after a pretty lame show overall (they kept playing "new material" full of intro stories like "I wrote this one last week about my lovely wife" and after like 5 songs nobody cared about some angry fan yelled "play some Marshall Tucker!") they were doing that "Can't ya See" song, and whoever the hell was singing for them at the time led a "can't ya see" singalong with the crowd for like 10 minutes, did one of the verses, then started the singalong AGAIN. It just kept going and going and eventually one of my friends said "ah fuck this, they're gonna do this all night, let's get the hell outta here." It was pretty unanimous, we all got up immediately, and halfway outta the casino you could still hear the strains of yuppies halfheartedly chanting "can't ya see...can't ya see..." Prolly the only show I ever walked out of in anger.

I once left a DSO show during the encore, which was some throwaway like Johnny B Goode. My friend wanted to "beat the crowd." They ended up doing a monster like 30+ minute double encore of Dark Star>MLBJam>St Stephen and something or other. I'm still pissed about that.

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: May 16, 2009 1:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

Wow! Too bad to hear that about the MTB. The Marshall Tucker Band in their early days with Toy & Tommy Caldwell were a fantastic live band. All the main guys are dead or gone now except for Doug Gray.
Back in the day that was a great band! Check out this from 1973!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeMColmMPyc

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Poster: Jim F Date: May 16, 2009 1:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

Yeah I'm with ya, I always thought MTB was great in the early days (not that I saw them then, I just liked the tunes and lineup and such). The lineup I saw was a bunch of hacks. Though I should say I also saw them in 99 or so and they weren't that bad.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 16, 2009 5:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey you two!

OMG...memory recharge. I think that I have forgotten this one til reading this, BUT I used to say the BEST and by far the LOUDEST concert I ever heard was an Outlaws/MTB in the early 70s...

I was with two friends too, and we each drank a 12 pack of lucky lager (yuck), or at least as much as we could, and went...we walked right up to the front row and saw two empty seats (place held about 10k), and sat down, one on the lap of the two, and had the best time ever.

I don't really like them now, sorta "poor man's ABB" I think they say, but it was unreal...somehow the energy and loudness really worked. It hurt for about three days, and was clearly not a smart thing, but WOW.

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Poster: rastamon Date: May 16, 2009 5:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey you two!

huh? what did you say? i can't hear...you
your ears are mp3 friendly now? haha

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 16, 2009 6:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey you two!

Yep--that is NO doubt the case! Jeeezzz...they actually hurt after that (the ears)...

Good luck today my man! Or wait--tomorrow? Sunday, right?

Good luck either day--both even!

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Poster: rastamon Date: May 16, 2009 8:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey you two!

saw ZZTop & Steve Miller at Spartan Stadium in the early 90's, my ears are still ringing
Yeah, the BtoB is sunday, going to be one of the warmest daze yet. Resting up today :)
btw, the 420guy who uploaded the 5/14show at bt.etree.org,
grate sound quality, better than whoever upped 5/10

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Poster: barongsong Date: May 16, 2009 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey you two!

By far the loudest band I've ever seen was ACDC in 86? After the "for those about to rock" cannons went off I was a permanent mp3 candidate. Although I think I can still tell that flacs are better if I crank it to 11.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 16, 2009 11:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey you two!

why not just make 10 louder?

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Poster: barongsong Date: May 16, 2009 11:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey you two!

But mine goes to 11 man.

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Poster: pigpen_81 Date: May 16, 2009 9:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hey you two!

BD,..he's making a spinal tap reference. In the movie "This is Spinal Tap".. the band claims that their Amps go to 11.
Very comical movie about the 80's hair bands.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 15, 2009 8:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

That Ripple was very similar to Box of Rain at Hampton for me - a truly WTF moment where the disbelief and then excitement of the tune being played overwhelmed and dwarfed the ragged performance.

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Poster: srtg83 Date: May 15, 2009 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

BD

You gotta stop this. MPP in '83, Syracuse '84, Hampton '86, Garcia comeback shows in Oakland '86.

I gotta think that there may be other shows you and I both attended.

As to walking out, I never did. The closest I came was Hamilton, the second night in 1992. I only saw the band once after that.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 15, 2009 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

Well, sounds like we both caught a bunch of shit shows in the early through latter mid 80s, huh?

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Poster: srtg83 Date: May 15, 2009 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

Yeh really, Syracuse '84 wasn't bad but the others were indeed weak. I don't think I have ever listened to the others since.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: May 15, 2009 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

Holy shit BD- we were definately tuned to the same wavelength on that one...lol

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: May 15, 2009 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

Charlotte 91

06-11-91 Charlotte Coliseum, Charlotte, N.C. (Tue)
1: Iko Iko, Walking Blues, Jack A Roe, Mama Tried> Mexicali, West L. A., Queen Jane, Bird Song> Promised
2: Victim> Eyes> L. L. Rain> Terrapin> Playin Reprise> Drumz> Playin Reprise> Wheel> Throwing Stones> NFA E: U. S. Blues

Didn't make it past Mexicali. Check the recordings. 132 DL's at LL. O seeders. 0 leaches. As it should be. If it sounds like shit, it probably is.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: May 15, 2009 8:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

I'm surprised that you walked out of the Soldier Field show. I was at that one, and though it wasn't the best of June '91, it had some awfully good parts. The Shakedown in the number two spot was absolutely smokin'. The first set was pretty hot all-around actually, capped by a killer LIG.

But, I can understand being disappointed by the beginning of set 2. Foolish to open was pretty disjointed -- with flubbed lyrics, etc.. Crazy was typically Crazy, but from Playin on, this was a hot second set. Great Terrapin, Dark Star jam out of space, and the Black Peter was sensational.

Anyway, my 2 cents.. Never walked out of a show based on performance. I did leave the 3/18/91 Cap Center show early, though, after my buddy got kicked out. Still regret that.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: May 15, 2009 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

came close in Vegas 93. A friend traveled cross country so I felt like it mas my duty to stay. he later told me the was thinking the same thing.

Holy crap. TDIH features the gig I was talking about.

Crazy mojo to start the day

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Poster: barongsong Date: May 16, 2009 9:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

I actually have a funny story about walking out of a show at Landover in 88. I believe it was the last show of the run and I had taken some, as it turned out, unpredictable fungus and was actually to high for even a dead show I guess. The funny part is I recall that it was the overwhelming smell of patchouli oil that was extremely irritating to me at the time. Had never really minded it before but on this occasion it seemed to be everywhere and was somehow irritating and interfering with my ability to listen to the band so by the second set I had had enough and walked out and had an amazing experience where I though I was communing and even conversing with my friends dog in the parking lot but anyway, I think this is the only time I've left a Dead show.

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Poster: Yaz8 Date: May 15, 2009 5:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

Was with Lobster in Vegas 93. Didn't walk out but should have. The sound was horrible for most of the first set, the setlist was uninspired and it was hot.

I don't think encores count. A lot people (including me) headed for the parking lot when a run of mill encore kicked on. To this day, I instinctively start walking toward the nearest exit whenever I hear Knockin on Heaven's Door.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: May 15, 2009 8:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

For some reason I like really like this encore of Knockin' On Heaven's Door..

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1987-12-31.prefm-sbd.remaster-shnid-23034.23065.shnf

...even though the review on the page pans it. I think Jerry takes some fine solos, and his voice is tolerable...

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Poster: tank_tuba Date: May 15, 2009 1:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

I once walked out of a Loverboy show. I wasn't loving every minute of it.

Besides, I was only there to see the opening band, Dokken. Yeah. Hair metal at its finest.

That should lay to rest any question as to the size of my testicles. It takes an awfully big set of balls to admit going to a Loverboy/Dokken show.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: May 15, 2009 4:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

How about admitting going to a Stryper/Sammy Hagar (pre-VH) show...and NOT walking out? Not that *I* ever did anything like that, unh-uh (it was free and a hot chick asked me to go, OK?) ;)

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Poster: barongsong Date: May 16, 2009 10:29am
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Dude, I think I was at that show. At least somewhere on that tour anyway, minus the hot chick even. My friend convinced we to go. Now that's a show I should have walked out on.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: May 16, 2009 10:45am
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If it was the Cow Palace... that's the one. I feel your pain...

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Poster: barongsong Date: May 16, 2009 11:34am
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No, for sure it was near Providence RI somewhere but my mind has imposed selective memory due to the trauma so it's to painful to try to recall further.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: May 16, 2009 12:11pm
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LOL!!! Amen, Barong. Anything that loud (I was hearing with my stomach, my ears were bypassed by the volume) and that bad should be forgotten IMMEDIATELY. Take two GD at Orpheum 76's and call me in the morning... ;)

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 15, 2009 4:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

Soundgarden opening for Voivod opening for Danzig ... at the Stone. ROCK!

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Poster: veblen Date: May 15, 2009 8:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

I have walked out of so many more sporting events than musical performances but there have been a few, though I don't believe any dead related.

well I tried to walk out of a ratdog show once but couldn't find the exit at slim's; and then someone passed me a doob which allowed me to regain my composure and stay. At that show my plan to leave was due more to my mental state than the tunes.

the best near walkout, a show where I was on my out and then it turned into a magical experience goes to a dylan show a few years ago in berzerkeley, at zellerbach hall. I arrived late to a general admission show and found myself sitting in the nosebleeds stage right looking directly at the keyboards on stage left. The keyboards were facing directly towards me and I am thinking that I will be watching the keyboard player all night while bobby d is playing at the front of the stage; all I will be seeing is his left shoulder. Over the course of the next twenty minutes or so, I was doing my best not to leave due to many reasons, one being I just wasn't feeling up to par. So the house lights go down and instead of the expected spotlight going up center stage it goes up on the keyboardist stage left and it is bobby d. "Good evening ladies and gentlemen." It was the first tour that he played keyboards pretty much exclusively. So for the entire show it was like he was performing just for us. it was also a very well performed show. I found myself even more impressed with his keyboard playing since I was able to watch his hands. That was one cool show!!!


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Poster: William Tell Date: May 15, 2009 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out: RATDOG!!!

Ha!

A Ratdog show is the ONLY event I have EVER walked out of!

Too cheap...many I could or should have, but didn't...

No DEAD shows though...I always liked them even if they weren't 68.

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Poster: veblen Date: May 15, 2009 12:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out: RATDOG!!!

at least you were lucky enough to find an exit...

and on second thought the music surely did have something to do with my desire to bail...

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 15, 2009 12:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out: RATDOG!!!

Yeah, it was 4-5 yrs ago...maybe a "bad" lineup (can't recall). Got thru the first set, and was with various family members...had two cars, so some of us departed. Never had done it before. Always figured there was something to be heard/seen. Others thought the second set was better...they even did StSt, and thought I'd be broken hearted.

I wasn't.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: May 15, 2009 9:37am
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Ive walked out twice. First was 4/8/82, Onondaga War Memorial, the band sucked! Gotta love those trough style urinals, though!

Second time was, believe it or not, right after Morning Dew at MSG on 9/18/87. Fuck La Bamba! The Grateful Dead couldnt hold up against an average Mariachi band on this tune, let alone Ritchie Valens...

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: May 15, 2009 1:04pm
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"Fuck La Bamba!"

Hilarious! Great way to start the weekend!

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: May 15, 2009 10:03am
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Long live the trough!

Cleveland Municipal Stadium, RIP.

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Poster: sambonk2 Date: May 15, 2009 1:11pm
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amen...she was a great stadium......miss that stadium....the new browns stadium sits right on top and if you listen closely,you can still hear the 55,000 tanked Fans storm the field in huge .5 cent beer brawl..Oh i love my city!!!

GO CAVS!

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Poster: Estimated Pete Date: May 15, 2009 2:16pm
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Richfield had those beloved troughs too. When wearing shorts, your legs got wet. Worse thing about it was that it wasn't your pee making them wet.
GO CAVS!!

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Poster: Morning Dewd Date: May 15, 2009 8:05am
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I've walked out twice that I can recall.
The first was Deer Creek 7/18/90.I'd awakened in the lot and washed some paper down with some "electric o.j.". I didn't have a ticket yet when someone miracled my friend, so I just followed her through the gate.The H>S>F was great, but then came Easy To Love You (never liked that song) so I left.Once outside, I realized what I'd done.As luck would have it, someone showing up late had an extra (I gave him $10) and I was back in for the opening notes of Peggy O.

The second time was at the Cap Center in '92.The 2nd song of the 2nd set was Way To Go Home and I decided I'd had enough.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: May 15, 2009 9:37am
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Too freakin' funny

"but then came Easy To Love You (never liked that song) so I left"

That song is always a buzzkill for me but I usually just went for B-room break, it never drove me completely out of the Venue

LOL

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Poster: podsix Date: May 15, 2009 3:22pm
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Speaking of Buzzkill song, Sitting through Phil's "If the Shoe Fits" used to send me to the brink. The lyrics would completely turn me off. "Give it up, cuz you can't win. Let it go while you still can..." What was that all about? I believe that it was summer tour '94. If I hadn't drove from the west coast to be there I might of contimlated walking out.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: May 15, 2009 9:57am
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all right, fess up. Much like all 75,000 people say they were there when Gibson hit the home run off Eck,(the tail lights in the replay show tons leaving) who was at that Cap Center gig in 88 and walked out before/after OMSN only to find out they busted out Ripple?

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Poster: barongsong Date: May 16, 2009 10:47am
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I Have several friends who were selling stuff out in the lot who did leave early. I actually wasn't aware how rare a tune it was at the time but knew I had never seen it before and it was one of my favorite dead songs. Anyway when I came out one of my friends came running back up and asked me if I saw it, practically ripping the hair out of his head, saying they hadn't played it electric in 20 years that I knew the significance. I guess I was pretty stoned because now that I'm really thinking of that moment I don't recall people overly freaking out inside, I think it took everyone by surprise and there was nothing left to do but smile smile smile.

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Poster: buscameby Date: May 15, 2009 11:48am
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I didn't walk out but I should have on 9-6-85'. That was one of the worst shows I ever saw, I was in the 3rd row so I didn't but I did stick out my tongue and then flip Jerry off after he came back from his"spoonful". It that was pretty bold of Bobby to play that though.


Of coarse Jerry and Phil made up for the bs the next day. Phil told a friend of mine at the hotel that night he was embarrassed by the 9-6 show and they would make it right on Sunday.

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Poster: liranfa Date: May 15, 2009 2:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Walkin' out

It's funny to hear peoples different opinions. I too felt the Red Rocks show 9/6/85 was terrible but stuck it out. If there was ever a show I was going to walk out on was the Greek 6/20/87. They played a 40 min 1st set and played Iko/Looks Like Rain/Deal before drums...yep 20 minutes. It was at this point I felt completely ripped off and wanted my money back. In fact, you could hear a murmur over the crowd about WTF was going on? Many of you know that after space was probably the best 45 min of the year. You never know what a show is going to bring unless you stick with it until the end.

Also, as much as a show feels crappy when you're there, many times it's the mood or surroundings that you're in at the show. Try watching the 1st half of a show on the rail or within 10 ft of the stage and then go watch it half way back or further and see just how each half stacks up. Every time I've done that, the 2nd half that I watched from further back "lacked energy" and wasn't as fun. It's amazing how a feel of a show can change if you're in the right location of the venue for sound/good crowd/etc. Having a good time is all in your mind and how you interpret the show.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 15, 2009 7:28pm
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Yeah, I agree completely about the importance of the scene...other than the Ratdog show I mentioned below, I rarely would actually feel that the show was so bad, whoever the band was, to warrant leaving...usually my response was to discuss what was wrong, waiting for it to improve or whatever, and the folks with me always were the most important aspect.